To: kashmir-global-network@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 12 December, 2008 23:26:37
Subject: Re: [kashnet] Mumbai Terror, Who is responsible?
Mumbai Terror, Who is responsible?
Dear A.M.Siraj Sb,
Thanks for your comments,difference s of opinion are the beauty of this forum. I am a graduate in Islamic jurisprudence and preventive law. I strongly believe that religion is a personal matter of an individual human being. As followers of Deen we don`t need to impose our possessive ideology on others. Only our good actions (deeds) are needed to convince others. Actions speak louder than words. This is what has happened in the subcontinent.
I fully agree with your opinion that Muslims are damaging themselves rather than outsiders, Mr. Anjum is one of them. Terrorism is a major problem in this world it is therefore the duty of Muslim Scholars to isolate Islam from Terrorism. There is only a limited number of fundamental people who call themselves muslims that carry out these atrocities under the banner of Islam. You correctly stated that we should not get embroiled in tarring everyone with the same brush as the non muslim world appears to be doing and creating even greater Islamaphobia.
A comprehensive definition is needed for terrorism in no dictionary is terrorism defined as an act carried out by a muslim so why argue on such issues.
In fact indiginous national liberation, fundamental human rghts and killing of innocents are completely different things.
It is good for kashneters to find common grounds to move forward.
Kind regards
Nadeem
Thanks for your comments,difference s of opinion are the beauty of this forum. I am a graduate in Islamic jurisprudence and preventive law. I strongly believe that religion is a personal matter of an individual human being. As followers of Deen we don`t need to impose our possessive ideology on others. Only our good actions (deeds) are needed to convince others. Actions speak louder than words. This is what has happened in the subcontinent.
I fully agree with your opinion that Muslims are damaging themselves rather than outsiders, Mr. Anjum is one of them. Terrorism is a major problem in this world it is therefore the duty of Muslim Scholars to isolate Islam from Terrorism. There is only a limited number of fundamental people who call themselves muslims that carry out these atrocities under the banner of Islam. You correctly stated that we should not get embroiled in tarring everyone with the same brush as the non muslim world appears to be doing and creating even greater Islamaphobia.
A comprehensive definition is needed for terrorism in no dictionary is terrorism defined as an act carried out by a muslim so why argue on such issues.
In fact indiginous national liberation, fundamental human rghts and killing of innocents are completely different things.
It is good for kashneters to find common grounds to move forward.
Kind regards
Nadeem
From: Ajaz Majid Siraj
To: kashmir-global- network@yahoogro ups.com
Sent: Friday, 12 December, 2008 4:59:16
Subject: Re: [kashnet] Mumbai Terror, Who is responsible?
Dear Anjam, Nadeem and Javid Sahib,
If we were to go past this back and forth in personal attacks, which only serves to distract from real message, we may be able to communicate the issue and perhaps come to some agreement. The real issue, as mentioned by Anjam sahib, is how the duties mandated by Islam are projected negatively, especially by our own Muslims! I am in full agreement with this.
The fact of the matter is that the enemies of Islam have worked hard to associate Islam with so called terrorism. Part of this effort is to use Islamic terms and anglicize them to give them that negative connotation. For example, they use words like "Jihadist" and "Islamist" (sic) when Arabic words with same meaning would be Mujahid and Muslim. Secondly, they automatically connect any act of terror with Jihad and Islam, whether there is any connection or not.
However, such acts are expected from those who hate Islam. We can not expect anything better from them. The issue is when our own Muslim brothers use similar language to express their political difference with some groups. We should be careful not to fall into this trap of Islamophobes to call bad/criminal people among us "Jihadi". We should know better that Islam does not permit acts such as what happened in Mumbai. In fact, we Muslims should go on offensive to denounce those who associate Islam with terror. Let us call terrorist just that - terrorist. It is about time! If LeT is responsible for any un-Islamic act then how can we even call them "Jihadi"? How can we even associate them with Islam?
Ma Salam
From: nadeem aslam
To: kashmir-global- network@yahoogro ups.com
Cc: JAVEED INYAT
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:41:48 PM
Subject: Re: [kashnet] Mumbai Terror, Who is responsible?
I know Mr.Javid he is a longstanding political worker from POK.He is working for the pro-people stance and many other Kashneters known him very well.
Would you be able to tell us about your self who you are and why you are delivering a nasty posts on Kashnet.
I notice that you have a very little knowledge about Kashmiri territory and political themes.
You are in difficult position maybe you don`t have sufficient under standing of issues and problems or ?
You will try to re- frame the question`s and issues that you want to know,and try to answer in reasonable shape that every one understand it .
I hope you should use the common sense and logic to deliver you point of view,otherwise you are not save in glass house?
You can`t achieve anything with nasty blame game.
Waiting for your positive reply in early course.
Kind Regards,
Nadeem
If we were to go past this back and forth in personal attacks, which only serves to distract from real message, we may be able to communicate the issue and perhaps come to some agreement. The real issue, as mentioned by Anjam sahib, is how the duties mandated by Islam are projected negatively, especially by our own Muslims! I am in full agreement with this.
The fact of the matter is that the enemies of Islam have worked hard to associate Islam with so called terrorism. Part of this effort is to use Islamic terms and anglicize them to give them that negative connotation. For example, they use words like "Jihadist" and "Islamist" (sic) when Arabic words with same meaning would be Mujahid and Muslim. Secondly, they automatically connect any act of terror with Jihad and Islam, whether there is any connection or not.
However, such acts are expected from those who hate Islam. We can not expect anything better from them. The issue is when our own Muslim brothers use similar language to express their political difference with some groups. We should be careful not to fall into this trap of Islamophobes to call bad/criminal people among us "Jihadi". We should know better that Islam does not permit acts such as what happened in Mumbai. In fact, we Muslims should go on offensive to denounce those who associate Islam with terror. Let us call terrorist just that - terrorist. It is about time! If LeT is responsible for any un-Islamic act then how can we even call them "Jihadi"? How can we even associate them with Islam?
Ma Salam
ajaz siraj
From: nadeem aslam
To: kashmir-global- network@yahoogro ups.com
Cc: JAVEED INYAT
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2008 4:41:48 PM
Subject: Re: [kashnet] Mumbai Terror, Who is responsible?
I know Mr.Javid he is a longstanding political worker from POK.He is working for the pro-people stance and many other Kashneters known him very well.
Would you be able to tell us about your self who you are and why you are delivering a nasty posts on Kashnet.
I notice that you have a very little knowledge about Kashmiri territory and political themes.
You are in difficult position maybe you don`t have sufficient under standing of issues and problems or ?
You will try to re- frame the question`s and issues that you want to know,and try to answer in reasonable shape that every one understand it .
I hope you should use the common sense and logic to deliver you point of view,otherwise you are not save in glass house?
You can`t achieve anything with nasty blame game.
Waiting for your positive reply in early course.
Kind Regards,
Nadeem
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